MONTHS later I couldnt hide my difficulty crossing that jurisdiction line OUT OF primarily NYPD jurisdiction and usually I can hide it from anyone, even the police, but that day I couldnt and was approached carefully by an officer. Moreover, how do you distinguish ADHD symptoms, which should respond to medication, from these entrenched poor coping responses? I do still have surges of anger when I see socks on the floor sometimes and find myself returning to the mindset of that dark period where I began to believe he had stopped truly caring about me, but I can take a breath and remember that if I expressed those feelings to him, he will do his best to understand and even if he cant completely relate, he will give me the benefit of the doubt and tell me that he cares about how hard things can be for me. Often, though, he doesnt seem put upon by my latest malady, but more like he doesnt know what to do about it. "I had been . Yet he came across incredibly self-aware and compassionate, as well as brilliant and adventurous, so this didnt scare me off. I cried and I went off on him, but I kept it controlled. Sorry, for the preamble but I am struggling to cope with my situation and wondered whether there has been any commentary from other ADHD sufferers (tea-total) who have a similar problem with their partners addiction/disorder? The thing is, trying to mind your own responsibilities and let him manage is..typically catches up with us. By the way, Im not sighing because I dont want to help you, I think Im just sighing because my brain is switching gears. Its like a part of my brain is sighing, but not my heart, or my higher brain I absolutely want to help him, and make him feel supported. My first book, 2008, was a major attempt to empower people with ADHD and their partners to understand ADHD and pursue evidence-based treatment, including with medication. Thank you so much for sharing. If you havent already, I encourage you to read my first book. Postscript: This morning I went to load the clothes into the washer. How do we know, though, if its ADHD creating this undesirable response or something else? I have told him about how it makes me feel, and he said explicitly that he is worried his ADD will prevent him from being a good husband for me, yet he has not taken any initiative to learn more about the disorder, find a therapist, or start a treatment. Later, I told him, something like. Try not to react when negative emotions are strong. We deserve happiness, too. He remains angry at me (almost always), spins scenarios and words often and rarely owns up to his part of a situation. It takes effort and commitment, on both parts. Not from preeminent Adult ADHD experts, who fully grasp this, but more at the clinical level. People with BPD may experience rage when they perceive rejection, neglect, or abandonment in a relationship. All of the research Ive done mirrored J to a T. But it also mirrored my husband M of 32 years. Ill tell you my personal story in a minute. Less frustrating, for you both. And what you will have to do is take care of yourself. I now say things out loud over and over until the information goes in, with my partner, and this signals to him that ive heard and am attempting to process. There might be little left to cope with a partners brain-based challenges, and thats important to know. In year 3 the compassion & nurturing that I had come to count on as the salve for the rest of the ADHD hardships failed spectacularly. Maybe counseling would help. One demonstration of this change in our patterns involves a recent nasty incident when I had the flu again about 3 months ago. This misguided advice does not come from experts. I Dont Nag!! Given the behavior you describe, that seems warranted. Ive found a possible answer but the road ahead looks as bumpy as the road Ive been on for 30+ years. This post gave me a lot of insight into our dynamic. Not to forget: the lifelong misattributions and poor coping of the newly diagnosed ADHD partner, since childhood. I lost my ability to organize my environment around me due to an injury. The message is: that you are indebted to her brilliance and truly, truly appreciate her efforts to put up with you being such a pain in the butt (while undiagnosed). Connie, what you said is 100% what I am also experiencing, but instead of 18 months, its closer to 3 years. But my concern is for Ezra. I have had connected this with ADHD way before he was diagnosed, not because I knew about this sort of things, but because I knew it was not normal. Im tired of being the only adult in the house. That is, an ADHD partner seems to view a partners temporary illness not with compassion but as an.inconvenience. Hes in the church circles and does well managing all of this outwardly.. only within the home does this often come into play .. making it hard to seek support as everyone knows him as the funny godly guy. He took me to urgent care and they could not get my blood pressure. What I am describing in this post are some of the common dynamics in a relationship when one partner has poorly managed ADHD and, as part of that for some people with ADHD, a difficulty expressing or feeling empathy. This is a different relationship and I guess Im just looking for answers of some kind. It took getting him out to address his escapism. Medication might not create improvement in this area right away. I have battled with the question, when he tells me that he cant do something or isnt able to motivate himself, whether its true or an excuse. . Several years after the foot-surgery fiasco, I had another outpatient surgery. Im always mindful of time zones when I schedule the Zoom meetings. We were all feeling our way. I wrote my book for people like you.who need a comprehensive course in Adult ADHD, including its potential effects on the partners and the range of evidence-based strategies. I get it. We can get into real trouble, though, if we believe that with enough love and caringand medicationa true sociopath can change. They eventually break up, permanently, and go their separate ways. So a little on my story bc it helps to explain the complexity of my situation. You are currently caring for your father with dementia; my heart goes out to you there. They often (1) express that the non-AD/HD partner isnt compassionate enough, (2) suggest that the conflict was due to my high expectations, (3) suggest that my codependency is the issue, and (4) do not hold the AD/HD partner (ie, my husband) responsible for either his choices or his actions; instead, because I am the stronger of the two, that responsibility is mine. Thank you so much for taking the time to write. I can generally handle my husbands ADD symptoms (hes an inattentive type), but where I am really struggling is the RSD symptoms. I guess after a doc suggested a bike and I demonstrated its dangerous no matter what and I could take care of myself on the street, a bike he didnt want me to buy with my spending money sounded better than skating (I had more injuries walking than skating too), and he bought me a bike, which I didnt get to use much, unfortunately. We must consider the complicating co-existing conditions (e.g. This does make things easier, and for the first time, Im able to step back and see things from her perspective instead of simply wondering why she changed her personality and now finds me to be unreliable and emotionally unavailable. The break up came to me out of left field, he never said anything was bothering him or anything. Last modified on Thu 8 Dec 2022 14.56 EST. His symptoms might not reflect how he feels or cares about you .but what he DOES with those symptoms absolutely does. Everything youve described about your husband and his motivations/struggles sounds similar to my own. I said a lot of stuff about how I could have died, about how I knew it was the ADHD, and I know he loves me but its just so scary and painful, that I grew up being neglected and this was also neglect and how that rips me to the core, that this would freak anybody but it really really freaks me, that I didnt know how Id feel safe again. I have to be the one to tell my 5 kids, that I am sick and cannot help them. Could I sit on my ass all weekend and keep all weight off it? If the person with ADHD does not do the work and realize the harm they cause, it will only get worse. What I read for non ADHDers, sure if the person loved you wants the relationship, they will contact you. This understanding is so important. That was a daunting discovery, but I was cautiously hopeful that the chaos and destruction that has permeated every area of our lives could be turned around, that there was enough left of what used to be good that could be rediscovered and redeemed. Is it starting to sound like Im in denial of abusive behavior? https://adhdsuccesstraining.com/solving-your-adult-adhd-puzzle-for-couples-and-individuals/. Deep down I knew he had something going on, but I figured it was just anxiety like he mentioned he gets. Its up to you to take action on the course of your life. Especially if you dont know what they are or how to do it. I was so horrified and in despair. Not sure if it is worth mentioning, but my bf does have pretty intense ADHD - I don't even think he realizes just how much his ADHD actually controls him. As the youngest of seven children, I know full well the kind of work you have been doing. Im 35, and other relationships werent a priority in my life to this extent and came quickly, so this reaction didnt alarm me in my past. Its definitely in my library. Its actually hard to believe, even while its happening, isnt it? but as you said, if your loved ones are at risk, your credit score, your belongings are not respected, you cant always stay in your lane when he is ripping into yours. Home is where I constantly try to avoid any cause of discomfort or annoyance. Ive shared my reading with him and he does see himself in much of it. I was very sick a few years ago, thought it was the flu until I was bedbound, shaking uncontrollably. I couldnt address it for several days, being too weak. I guess I just need to set boundaries. 1) How can I best handle the situation if I feel that my coach/therapist is becoming more of a protective friend than an objective councilor? Teens might feel a deep sense of intimacy and acceptance, perhaps for the first time. I feel so stupid . Its true. While the distractibility, disorganization, and impulsivity of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD or ADD) can cause problems in many areas of adult life, these symptoms can be particularly damaging when it comes to your closest relationships. She feels no need for affection or intimacies until friendship, yet expects the friendship to be like she had with friends outside of our relationship. Instead, they overlay common ADHD-related patterns with talk of personality disorders, etc.. And prescribing patterns are generally sub-par. Same! Perhaps your wife did you a favor by leaving. Everyone needs to be heard, especially the disenfranchised, so thank you for listening and responding. And you have a right to be cautious about who you join up with in life. I lost 15 good years of my life trying to make things work, while my own needs were overstepped and shamed. We were on the bleeding edge, you might say. Im hard to please. On some level, they feel like this is how they . Initially, there was concern that my wife had early on set dementia like her mum but I now understand that her short memory problems were more likely to be as a result of alcohol misuse. To be clear: ADHD is never an excuse for bad behavior. But at least indicates something other than selfishness or lack of caring can be in play. Youre several years into a relationship before discovering that one or both of you have ADHD. My heart goes out to you. Adderall. These things are still just awful, but the ability to maintain closeness throughout makes all the difference in the world. It was in shared jurisdiction and the cop was not NYPD. But its there. He knew I was out of my mind when I told him I thought we were in Denver (we lived in Memphis). But that is a scary and forbidden thing to say. Sometimes. Admittedly, this is easier said than done. If I was giving advice to my younger self, I would say Go! I have a soon to be 18 year old daughter with adhd. But first, turn on your speakers, because there are. So now the work begins for us. He was called to come pick me up, he looked at me with disgust at this inconvenience. To help heal your ADHD relationship dysfunction, you might find these resources helpful: Thank you for reading this long, but important, post. Im a bit of a pack rat, with regular purges. And, it was that specific processing disorder that worried the neurologist all those years ago, and prompted her to call me. He was diagnosed about 18 months ago and we go through stages of being really good, but then it all just goes down hill. Yes, I feel duped! So our next house, with much much higher real estate prices and less income, I gave us both our own rooms, his being the bigger one because sometimes he had to work from home. Then once I was old enough to work, I got a job and she handed me a bunch of bills too, more than I could pay and she was intermittently working, but not enough to make it. Thank you for giving me a safe space to talk about it, and thank you for advocating for BOTH partners in an ADHD relationship. I do not rely on him for my care, kids care, house care, animal care, etc. Too many red flags: lack of communication (hours to days), uninterested in how I was (my day, my stories etc. I wont go into detail about his behaviors, because most of them have been described by other people in this comment thread. Thanks for providing an example of bullying and gaslighting. I was stunned at my actions, rationally knowing they were unacceptable and unfair over-reactions in hindsight every time, but never having any self-control of my outbursts and behaviours and, more importantly, of my extreme emotions. Many non-experts claiming expertise are selling easy answersanswers that seem directly targeted to people with ADHD who have little insight to their challenges. The other day we brainstormed other boundaries to help her stay sane and me stay organized. Its true that some people with ADHD can be loving, kind, and generous, as you write. Ive used the I feel statements to handle that in the past. Answer (1 of 11): Nah bruh I have adhd that wasn't impulse you did something. If your husband is doing better now, its time for him to step up and do all he can do make your life easier and happier. You deserve it. Every time we tried to talk about it wed just fight again. I was truly starting to wonder if he was doing it on purpose just to tick me off and I was just so angry and frustrated all the time. They are out of steamand out of caring. Once home, I saw he had dutifully set up my bedstead with a land-line phone and his cell phone. As a result, I felt helpless, hurt, duped, and frightened. You might want to read my most popular blog post: It might not have been the importance of seeing this friend so much as just needing a break, and maybe he couldnt articulate that.). How frustrating! Read books about how to be emotionally connected and available and make notes for the future. I chose to skate because I couldnt have moved that fast on foot due to a lifetime of injuries. The relationship has been milk and honey the first 3 . New habits. All along he has and still tries to make everything harmful that he does, my or someone elses fault. I really badly want to do your course, and I hope I can convince him to do this to. I could sense something was wrong (woman's intuition) and asked him whether there was something he wanted to tell me a couple of days after the party, to which he said no. That it took me so long to realize is ok. Except to say that seven years ago, I had an epiphany about how I could or couldnt depend on my husband, and I made a decision about my plans in the event of terminal or serious chronic illness. are being revisited byscience. Youve made a strong first step, in voicing your feelings here. Impose The Three-Day Waiting Period. Theres only one thing that the 10-30 millions of adults with ADHD in the U.S. alone have in common: variable aspects of this highly variable syndrome. And probably the reason BPD is one of the misdiagnoses I went through its the trait of it I have very strongly (I dont come anywhere near the criteria dating 2 people in a year and not getting super serious while separated from my to-be husband with no intent on either side of getting back together was overly promiscuous according to the person who diagnosed me, as an example) and overlaps with PTSD. ADHD relationship dysfunction patterns might have been clear to meif wed truly understood ADHD. If he is not, he should say if you ask. :>) Interestingly enough the person I did this deep research dive for is in deep denial and avoidance of the issues and us. It blows my mind, my heart broke. 8. Thank you so much for letting me know that my work has helped you. Eventually I was able to get my husband to agree to some office-grade carpet for the living room, which I had tried to claim as mine but um yeah And that was just laid down like a rug lol That was the second house in a row that needed some work and said work got done when we moved out so when we bought the yard for the dog, I insisted we NOT DO THAT AGAIN. Friends see his lack of social skills as oh thats J, hes funny, a little odd but nice and keep their distance. You pursued treatment., And, from the sound of it, you . Fast forward to trying to be friends, then falling back into dating but not wanting to get messy again, and it just circled over and over through mid March. Sometimes validation starts the path toward healing. Without her help I would have never realized I had the disorder to begin with, and I feel like I owe her so much. Endorsed by legitimate, preeminent clinical researchers. Like hell. I devote a good part of Course 1 to this: https://adhdsuccesstraining.com/solving-your-adult-adhd-puzzle-for-couples-and-individuals/. At the very least, even if you decide to leave the relationship, youll have helped this person you care about to potentially have a happier, healthier life. We never fully recovered from that fight. LOL the entrance to the crawl space was at one end of a long one-story house. An insider has revealed that Scott's violent temper and out-of-control personality has done more than land him in legal hot water over the years, as it eventually led to his breakup with Kylie Jenner. I had been passed out on the floor for that long. Rather than an excess of painful emotion, it was the lack of pain, the lack of feeling, that was the . (Appeasing the Google gods, in order that you might find such posts, involves a huge amount of work!). Consider my first book: Is it You, Me, or Adult A.D.D.?. Which should be fun, because he hasnt been working (unless you call building forts and training dinosaurs, work ), and has maxed out his credit cards. Many have learned to live with it. We're back together now, but we both should've gotten consistent individual therapy in between the breakup. Perhaps as responsibilities overwhelmed her and life wasnt as fun anymore. It just never occurred to him (or his brother) that I could be having a serious problem that needed immediate attention. That adults with me. Im am 57 and my daughter who is a 34 and her 3 year old live with me. Anyway, my book is not so much about saving relationships as it is about knowing what you are up against and what you might want/be able to do about it.. I have a long list of prior loss and trauma, and I know that factors somewhat into my perspective. Too often in the past, poorly managed ADHD obscured or sabotaged his innate empathy. More about that in a second. Dr. 25. But over time, as it heated up, your ability to get out of the pot diminished. The day I got sick he was out with his friends. Ive been following this site for a very, Very Long time. I feel like you *can*, however, reach out in a non-creepy way, say your bit, and then move on. Like the person doing the breaking up, will contact you after x amount of days or weeks. After a feverish weekend of sleeping, throwing up and hallucinating, he took me to my doctor on Monday morning, who told him to take me directly to the hospital. I dont know how far I am supposed to tolerate & support before I up & leave.. Then I also feel like numbing my feelings (or setting them aside), because its not about me.. 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